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On lumpenproletariat and lumpenized proletariat.

 
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MensajePublicado: Vie Oct 12, 2012 1:04 am    Título del mensaje: On lumpenproletariat and lumpenized proletariat. Responder citando

On lumpenproletariat and lumpenized proletariat.

I just came across a vindication of the early Marxist concept of lumpenproletariat (in Spanish here on Aporrea), so here it is, translated to English, and also in the original Spanish version (scroll down).

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The term lunpenproletariat is a most ambiguous concept because it could well be said that all workers are lumpen because, especially today with so much unemployment, all workers depend on the caprice of bourgeoisie. Also most of them lack a class ideology.

It is therefore normal that the concept of lumpenproletariat is ignored because, sincerely, I know drug traffickers with greater class consciousness than many workers with a contract.

As generic idea, the lumpenproletariat may be a useful concept, but it is not easy to make a difference with the other classes, especially at individual level. I do not think that Fascism is based mainly on the lumpen, but on the petty bourgeoisie (especially when it becomes impoverished) and bourgeois-ized sectors of the working class.

Much more dangerous than the lumpen, which generally lacks of any power of its own, is the proletariat under bourgeois direction. We must not forget that Capitalism is nothing but the product of the working class, under the direction of a parasitic class: bourgeoisie, unable to create anything by itself but very capable of monopolizing power (mostly by economic but also political means) and of manipulating the working class against its own collective objective interests.

The keystone of the revolutionary process is the emancipation of the working class from ideological, economic and political domination by the parasitic bourgeois class. Marx as bourgeois (and in spite of his genius and greatness) had a somewhat bourgeois-ized view of the working class - and the working class itself often has it because it is mesmerized by the bourgeois imagery, which steals its consciousness and destroys its revolutionary potential, effectively 'lumpenizing' almost all the proletariat.



http://www.aporrea.org/ideologia/a32084.html

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Es un concepto muy ambiguo porque realmente se podría decir que tod·s los trabajador·s son entonces lumpen porque, especialmente hoy día con tanto paro, tod·s dependen del capricho de la burguesía. Además también están casi tdo·s desideologizad·s.

Es normal que el concepto se ignore porque yo conozco traficantes de drogas con más conciencia de clase obrera que much·s trabajador·s con contrato.

Como idea genérica, el lumpenproletariado puede ser un concepto útil pero no es fácil distinguirlo de las demás clases, sobre todo a nivel individual. Tampoco creo que el fascismo se base principalmente en en el lumpen, sino en la pequeña burguesía (sobre todo cuando se ve empobrecida) y sectores aburguesados de la clase obrera.

Más peligroso que el lumpen, que en general carece de poder, es el proletariado bajo la dirección burguesa. No olvidemos que el Capitalismo no es otra cosa que un producto de la clase obrera, bajo la dirección de otra clase parasítica: la burguesía, incapaz de crear nada por si mism·s pero muy capaz de monopolizar el poder (por vías principalmente económicas pero también políticas) y manipular a la clase obrera en contra de sus propios intereses objetivos colectivos.

El quid del proceso revolucionario es la emancipación de la clase obrera de la dominación ideológica, económic y política por parte de la clase burguesa parasítica. Marx como burgués (a pesar de su genialidad y grandeza) tenía una visión un tanto aburguesada de la clase obrera - y la clase obrera misma suele tenerla porque está hipnotizada por el imaginario burgués que le roba su conciencia y destruye su potencial revolucionario, efectivamente "lumpenizando" al proletariado en casi su totalidad.

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Ultima edición por Jose009 el Vie Nov 09, 2012 5:21 am; editado 1 vez
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MensajePublicado: Mar Oct 16, 2012 2:55 pm    Título del mensaje: Responder citando

reading this topic I could not help but think about the text of Andre Gunther Frank: lumpenbourgeoisie, lumpendevelopment. Which explains, how a social layer or class (lumpenbourgeoisie) emerges in aid of foreign exploiters, handing out the local economy to foreign economic powers, this allows them to maintain political control to ensure the continuity of the vicious circle of dependence and exploitation. Then "development" and "underdevelopment" are two sides of the capitalist system.

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MensajePublicado: Vie Nov 09, 2012 5:00 am    Título del mensaje: Responder citando

Ñer0 escribió:
reading this topic I could not help but think about the text of Andre Gunther Frank: lumpenbourgeoisie, lumpendevelopment. Which explains, how a social layer or class (lumpenbourgeoisie) emerges in aid of foreign exploiters, handing out the local economy to foreign economic powers, this allows them to maintain political control to ensure the continuity of the vicious circle of dependence and exploitation. Then "development" and "underdevelopment" are two sides of the capitalist system.


Although it is a tangentially related topic, Andre Gunder Frank had a very prescient (August 5, 2004) analysis of the US economy in his final article. 2004 was a year when the United States housing bubble was 2 years away from its peak and 98% of the Economics profession thought that the US had found the perpetual money machine.

To be a naysayer in that time was to be dismissed -universally and immediately- as a laughable crank, fanatic, and slave of archaic ideology.

http://rrojasdatabank.info/agfrank/2004es02.html

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[W]e are living in a financial and debt economy in which U.S. dollar debt instruments are the primary basis of what is being bought and sold in the world, 20 times as much money as goods every year. But the debt is the counterpart of credit, especially the foreign credit that is keeping the U.S. economy afloat and also finances the Pentagon, which the U.S. then also uses to dominate and blackmail the rest of the world to accept policies in its own interest. The U.S. trade deficit is now $550 billion a year and growing. Every year about $100 billion is supplied by Europeans, $100 billion by China and about $100 billlion by the Japanese, though this year it is already over $120 billion. The rest is supplied by others, especially other East Asians but now also by India. Americans save nothing and spend far more than they produce by drawing on the savings, and thereby the production, of others who lend their savings to the Americans.

Also, because world reserves and principal payments - especially for oil and gold - are in dollars, the U.S. can and does simply print dollars and uses them to buy up the rest of the world's production for American consumption and investment. Yet in the end, these U.S. paper dollars, Treasury bonds, electronic accounts and funds, are all only paper and totally worthless, ie have no value beyond their acceptance by others, because the U.S. will not and cannot make good on them. The U.S. foreign debt is said to be already equivalent to one quarter of the U.S. gross domestic product (in reality it is even more), and foreigners already own 45% of U.S. government debt and a significant portion of U.S. assets. That is already an indication that it is economically and politically impossible to pay that debt. We, especially Asia and America, are playing in a "casino economy," but with worthless paper chips with imaginary value. In fact it is a gigantic Ponzi scheme, continually fed by contributions of real goods produced at the bottom of the pyramid, until they stop coming and the entire paper tiger house of cards comes crashing down, especially in America. Yet for the first time in history, this permits an uncompetitive world's largest debtor to call the shots.

One resulting scenario is that this situation offers an opportunity for more productive and competitive Europeans to step in and replace the dollar with the euro and/or another as the world's reserve currency. However, the Europeans lack a strong state to do so. But a major step would be for Russia, OPEC and other oil exporters to price their oil in euros instead of dollars, thus increasing demand for the euro and sending the dollar crashing down. Iraq priced its oil in euros, and an important reason for the U.S. war against it was to keep others from doing the same.

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